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The Science can Be WRONG… and That’s Okay.


Throughout the few years I’ve been making
videos, it’s been very clear that MY personal interest is to provide information and advice
on all things fitness, how to lose weight, gain muscle, and so on, through the basis
of scientific evidence. However, many of you have made it abundantly
clear that you do not necessarily agree with all of my conclusions. Sometimes it’s because you don’t agree
with my personal interpretation of the literature or that yourself have found scientific evidence
stating otherwise. But by far the most common issue is that you
might not believe the research because it does not align with your own, personal experiences. And with that, I want to say is, the science
CAN be, in a way, wrong… and that’s okay. Now, I’m not saying science is wrong in
terms of intentionally providing misinformation or deceitfully tweaking certain results. However, there are certainly questionable
cases where study authors or funders have a clear financial interest that benefit from
manipulating results for a certain product. But that’s a topic for another day. As far as independent, peer-reviewed research,
we can often rely on these findings to come from an objective standpoint. But that doesn’t mean that we can rely on
the findings to be applied universally. That is, if your own experiences have gotten
you great results but is not in agreement with scientific literature, then don’t change
your approach just to fit the science. As much I like to harp on the science, even
my own personal experiences aren’t rooted entirely on research. That’s because most research do not claim
that it actually applies to everyone. Rather, there is often a RANGE of outcomes
within the science and conclusions are simply looking at the averages. Take, for example, one of the latest low-carb
versus low-fat studies. In their findings, researchers concluded that,
after 1 year of assigning subjects to either a low-carb diet or a low-fat diet, both groups
achieved similar weight loss. Thus, we would normally conclude that both
diets can be effective for weight loss. But taking a closer look at an INIDIVIDUAL
level, we’ll get a much more telling story. These graphs here, courtesy of the fine folks
at examine.com, details the weight change of every single subject within the 12-month
study. As you can see, there were extremely varying
results in both groups. Some lost significant amounts of weight with
low-carb or low-fat diets, but some, to the contrary, actually gained significant weight. So, can we actually say unequivocally that
both diets are just as effective for YOU? Clearly, no, we can’t determine exactly
where you fall within this range of subjects. Now, consider this for everything else in
fitness research. Should you rest 3 minutes between your sets
just because a study said so even though you’ve gotten stronger with just a minute of rest? Should you eat less protein just because one
study said that you only need so and so number of grams per day to maximize muscle growth,
even though you’ve tried that before and it didn’t work out? These are the type of questions you need to
ask yourself. Now, I don’t want you to lose sight of the
fact that, even though the science doesn’t apply to you universally, it’s still extremely
valuable information thanks to its controlled testing with mostly objective outcomes. You’re more likely to align with parts of
the science than you are to defer from it. At the very least, it gives us a place start
drawing up a fitness plan where we then adjust based on our experiences. That being said, it’s important that I also
emphasize one last, relevant point: Just because something specifically works
for YOU, it doesn’t mean that it will work for everyone. And yes, this is a response to all of the
fine folks in the comments and elsewhere trying to tell others what to do just because something
personally worked for them. If the science itself can’t cover everyone,
then how can one person’s anecdote possibly be any better? Hint: it’s not. To close, again, it’s okay if the science
doesn’t always work out for you. It was never really intended to. It doesn’t mean the science is lying to
you nor does it mean your experiences didn’t count. Both can exist in the same world just fine. I hope you all can join me in giving a big
thank you to all the amazing researchers and scientists for all the hard work they’ve
done, both in the fitness realm and everywhere else, even if we can’t apply their results
to ourselves all the time. Please let me know what YOU think about the
science in fitness and your own experiences with it. IF you enjoyed this video, please give it
a thumbs up and share it with your science-loving friends. As always, thank YOU for watching and GET
YOUR PROTEIN!

100 thoughts on “The Science can Be WRONG… and That’s Okay.

  1. Also, the aspects you don't know and skew your conclusion. Simpson paradox. The most certain studies are the ones that were inspired by real world observation.

  2. A video on how we can analyse if a Report would be Funded or some example in the past that would've been exposed would be a great video!

  3. I wouldn't use the term "wrong", because conclusions are always drawn by the reader or if provided in a study, it is always stated in a careful way. On the other side, if you read an article from a magazine or something (Youtube videos as well), these careful formulated texts get formulated in a non careful way, because it sells better.
    This channel is ok, because it is not as careful as a paper, but much more careful than fitness magazines or other youtubers.

  4. In fact, we're making scientific discoveries so often that we haven't had much time to catch old theories up or bring it all together into a more understandable version of the Theory of General Relativity

  5. Science made atom bombs and Hitler; it is clearly always evil and we should always do the opposite of what it says.

  6. I think the best research right now that actually exist and you can benefit from is already written on Scientific Principles of Strength Training Book and Essentials Of Strength and Conditioning. If you understand them you can apply them to your training and won’t need to buy a coach or training program

  7. Hmm… not sure I like the overall vibe of this one. Implying that science can be wrong because something doesn't work for you usually means that something was misinterpreted or there were unaccounted factors.

  8. People have believed things for 1,000's of years because of science that were later proved wrong forever. Science will never be 100% right this is why I pull from history and logic as well to create conclusion.

  9. Been waiting for this for ages. People are just too blinded to realize they have to experiment what works best for them which may take some time and everyone reacts differently to different types of stimulation, diet, rest.

  10. That Venn Diagram between "science" and "personal experience" is brilliant. Yes, science may sometimes say one thing while you say another. But end of day, you're still going to align with most of what science says. Almost none of us are outliers here, you're still a human being with the same body and chemicals and evolution as everyone around you. You're still largely bound by what science says and by the rules of the universe. Which is why you should listen to it.

  11. As always… It depends.
    But I cannot deny, from all the fitness related YouTubers, you are the most accurate one in relation to the majority, as you do your best effort on using non bias scientific data. Thank you for this, and the time taken, as I hear your voice, I can feel the passion about the topics, passion to find the best truth, and this inspires me.

  12. There are two basic problems with most exercise science is that the groups that it is most able to study are college students who don't have a major interest in exercise, or who aren't part of any athletic endeavors, or, sometimes even worse, dedicated athletes. All of these categories of people will respond very differently to different kinds of stimulus. Novice gains are a well understood concept, but it doesn't get much play in most research because adjusting for novice gains is hard as a novice can improve very quickly at just about anything, doing just about anything. We've even seen studies showing that new lifters can get bicep growth when doing deadlift only programs because they've never lifted before.

    The other problem with exercise science is confounding elements. To get the best results you would want to kidnap… err, recruit a specific group of volunteers, lock them in controlled environments, and modulate their entire diet and life regimen for weeks, months, years, or even decades at a time. Even if this weren't ridiculously unethical, it is also extremely cost prohibitive.

  13. Sometimes, we rely too much on science, and forget our humanity. 'Feeling it'may be enough for a lot of people. Let's not forget that the universe is very strange and science has been wrong lots of times.

  14. "Science is a valuable endeavour." is an unproovable thesis. But if science ends our species at any point, it is falsified.

  15. Science can be misleading to people if they don’t know the definition of hypertrophy or to analyze data. Also everyone can get results in different ways.

  16. Picture Fit hugging an adorable Science Plushie. That's a T-Shirt logo if I've ever seen one. Maybe with a caption, "Love My Fitness Science".

    Fun, op-ed style video PicFit.

    Science dude changing his mind from bad study to OMG Great Study and then forming the heart symbol with the company spokeswoman was hilarious.

    The bar graph from Examine.com with the sliding You avatars to indicate people having varied weight loss across a spectrum was illustrative of the reality that where any given individual falls in actual practice of a fitness strategy can vary widely, and that's ok and perfectly normal and the science takes that into account.

    The venn diagram of science and personal experience forming together with your heart eyes celebrating the union was funny too.

    So, another awesome video!
    P.S : Just wanted to put the thought out there that Science is amazing, but we should all be on guard with making Science our "Faith" so to speak. Religion throughout history has been manipulated for the personal gains of unscrupulous people and science is no different. Scepticism and Common Sense should be Plushies we hug close to our hearts whenever we embrace science and its oft incredible discoveries.

  17. I also see alot of people claiming to have profited from 1 thing saying science is wrong. While they changed alot of shit.

    Like: newbie starts eating more food and 2xmore protein, starts lifting 3x a week, eating healthy and uses the supplement glutamine (worthless shit for gains).
    And then claims he got bigger because of the glutamine suppl. I see that crap alot and thats bullshit.

  18. Science is by far the best method we have for understanding reality. Sure, you might know what's better for yourself better than any combination of scientifically proven theories, but the problem is pretty much always people thinking their advice is better because of that, not science doing that. Any decent study will be crystal clear on how they got to their conclusions, and the problem is people misinterpreting it.

  19. I always find the recommend amount of sets per muscle group per week of 10 to 20 is just way to low for me and I prefer a little higher and it works much better for me

  20. Man, I know people tend to make fun of the "it depends", but personally, I'm very grateful you don't claim to have concrete, 100% correct answers like certain other channels do. I much prefer getting the basic rundown of the issue, the science behind it, the pros and cons of each approach, and your own interpretation and experience-based recommendation at the end. It feels much more genuine and informative. Also, I like that you don't sound too judging in your videos. Thanks! 🙂

  21. Ketosis has been scientifically proven to work for everyone. It's biology. Nobody is special.

    And yes, both diets may have lost weight, but you have to look into the caloric consumption based on their needs and and also look at the final result or the composition of the body if you will. The same weight can look drastically different depending on the fat/muscle ratio. Low muscle high fat at 190 is going to be an obvious indicator of being out of shape as to where high muscle low fat composition will look a lot more fit.

    I understand you don't to lose viewers/subscribers, but pandering to what they say doesn't "work" for them will not make them happy. Unhappy lazy people are just that. They will find an excuse to use as justification for their claims and expect you to do the research for them until they are told what they want to hear. It's futile to try. I applaud your effort to help your fellow man (because I have learned a few things from you over the years), but some people just don't want the help. They want a reason to complain.

  22. The "fable" of the engineer and statistician comes to mind. Both try to cross a river that is 3m deep in the middle and 1m on the banks.
    The engineer starts building a bridge, the statistician laughs "I'm tall enough on average" and walks right away, drowning.

  23. If a paper depends critically on the choice of one statistical estimator such as the average of some metric over the population, an estimator which is a purely arbitrary mathematical choice with no scientific justification, then it's just Bad science.
    Scientific studies should not care about "the average person", science is about making "universal" statements… which of course are never fully universal but try to be as universal as possible as our statistical power and control of systematics get better.

  24. Of course science can be wrong, I bet atoms don't exist in reality and are just illusions appearing in observation. Heck, it may be true even for cells

  25. The "problem" is also that there are a lot of different and different opinions, based on many studies who show different effects. There's a lot of confusion in the nutrition field. One day a study says one thing, the next day another study says the opposite. Experience and analysis are the way to go.

  26. How come this channel just gets so popular. He says things people already know just to say “it depends”

  27. Please do a video on joint health!
    How to keep joints healthy, what to eat and (if necessary) what supplements to take!

  28. And with this video you've made a lot of people think that science in general is wrong, fix it cause im not gonna keep scrolling and correcting people

  29. Science is never wrong. This is people (scientists) who are wrong with their poor experimental design and poor interpretation.

  30. It's not the science but the people. Science can be USED wrong when designated as a policy. Science is ever-shifting. We're always finding new things. It would be counter-productive to insist on anything because of an online article or your favorite speaker. The likelihood of the data changing is immense. Even upon your trying out science already founded you could uncover a variable unaccounted for & encourage further study. There's no such thing as "settling" when it comes to science.

  31. People need to be the scientists to, to do experiments by itself, to find out what is good for them.
    I don't like to use to much weight or to do to much reps but I love to do endless number of sets and it's working every time, for me.

    And yes my English sucks☺

  32. Exactly when people say you can 'overtrain'. It doesn't exist! Often the effects people experience are from undersleeping and undereating. If you get plenty if both you can't overtrain, it's an excuse used for weak minded people, the more you put into anything the more you get out, simple

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