Understanding Bipolar Depression
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Understanding Bipolar Depression

So I’m going to be talking
today about bipolar depression in adults. And I’m hopeful that I
can help you understand more about bipolar disorder
in general through this talk, and also provide an overview
about diagnosing this illness and treating this
illness, particularly during the depressed phase. As Nora mentioned,
I have been here at Stanford for quite some time. Did my residency here and then
did a post-doctoral fellowship doing research and clinical
work in bipolar disorder under the mentorship
of Terence Ketter. And for the past
couple of years, have joined the faculty at
the Bipolar Disorder Clinic. So I’m going to talk today
about first summarizing clinical features of
bipolar disorder in general for people who don’t
have a lot of familiarity with the illness. And then talking about the
specific challenges and issues that come up when diagnosing
bipolar depression in adults. And then discussing some
of the other challenges that come when you have to
approach treatment for bipolar depression in adults. So bipolar disorder is
a psychiatric illness that involves basically what we
call in lay terms mood swings. And more specifically
what we mean by that is that people have fluctuating
periods of depression and mood elevation. And we call them mood elevation
episodes of mania or hypomania. The illness can affect up
to 4% of the population, depending on how
broadly you define it. And one thing to remember
is that bipolar disorder is a lethal illness. It does have a risk of suicide
that’s up to 20 to 30 times greater compared to
the general population. So it’s an illness that
requires careful attention, careful monitoring,
and treatment. Bipolar disorder,
even if it doesn’t cause the more extreme
problems of suicide, is also a leading
cause of disability. And this is across the world. Looking at the World Health
Organization’s “Global Burden of Disease Report,” you
can see that globally in males and females when we
look at a statistic called Years Lost to Disability–
so basically looking at the disability related
burden of bipolar disorder– it is the seventh
leading cause in males and the eighth leading
cause in females, which is quite astounding given
that it only affects 1% to 4% of the population. So how do we diagnose
bipolar disorder? These ideas and concepts may
be familiar to some of you, but I wanted to make sure
that everyone understands what bipolar disorder is. So bipolar disorder has
two major mood states. One is depression and the
other is mood elevation. So you can diagnose
bipolar disorder once someone has had a major
depressive episode as well as a mood elevation episode. And major depressive
episodes are characterized by at least two consecutive
weeks of sadness or loss of interest in your
usual activities or loss of enjoyment of things
that would normally be enjoyable to the person, and
in addition to those symptoms, you need to have three or
four additional symptoms, some of which are more physical,
like change in appetite, sleep, and energy. And some are more psychic,
like decreased self-esteem, feelings of excessive
guilt, suicidal thoughts. People are often also dealing
with difficulty concentrating, indecisiveness when
they’re depressed. So there’s some cognitive
changes as well. And in addition to having
a major depressive episode, what distinguishes
bipolar disorder from unipolar
depression– and we’ll talk more about that– is the
presence of either a manic or a hypomanic episode. And for mania, you need
to have at least one week of consecutive mood
elevation symptoms. And for hypomania,
the requirement’s a little bit more lenient. You only need four days in a
row of mood elevation symptoms. And so what are the symptoms
that we’re talking about? There’s a mood change. So the mood becomes either more
euphoric, giddy, excitable, or more irritable,
very easily frustrated, losing their temper more easily
than they normally would. Or those two mood states could
be occurring in combination with one another,
and they often are. And in addition, our recent
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mood Disorders,
DSM 5, was released, and added the criteria that
in addition to these mood symptoms, a person
also has to be experiencing increased
energy or increased goal-directed activity. And beyond these
symptoms, one also needs to be experiencing three or
four of these other elevations symptoms like being more self
confident, more grandiose, needing less sleep than usual. This is a very common symptom
during an elevated state. Being more talkative than usual. Feeling like your
thoughts are racing. Being more easily distracted. For example, starting
one thing and suddenly getting excited about something
else and forgetting the one thing you were doing and
kind of moving around multitasking, but often not
in a very productive way. One probably would also
experience an increase in their activity level. Suddenly wanting to write
a novel, join 20 clubs, stay up all night doing
some kind of new project or cleaning the house. So that’s the kind
of thing that might happen when someone’s elevated. They might also just
be physically restless, needing to pace, walk around. They can’t sit still. And impulsivity or risk taking
is also another common symptom during an elevated state. People will, for example, just
spend down their credit cards or drive dangerously,
get into legal trouble because they feel like
nothing could stop them or they’re not thinking
about consequences. So mania, as opposed
to hypomania, is really distinguished
by the severity level. In addition to this
increased duration that’s required, in order to
qualify as a manic episode the episode should be
pretty severe, enough that it requires them to be
hospitalized for the episode. They’re psychotic
during the episode. Or they’re experiencing
really major problems as a result of it. For example, having
to declare bankruptcy because they overspent too
much, losing their job, getting divorced because they
created too many problems in their marriage,
getting into jail. These are the types
of severe consequences that would accompany
a manic episode. So putting that
all together, I’ve talked about bipolar
disorder in terms of major depressive episodes
and either manic or hypomanic episodes. And we divide bipolar disorder
into two key subtypes. Bipolar I is someone who’s
had at least one manic episode in their lifetime. They don’t even have
to have had depression. As long as they’ve had one
mania, they are considered Bipolar I. Bipolar II
disorder is characterized by having depressive
episodes as well as at least one hypomanic
episode in one’s lifetime. And unipolar depression or
major depressive disorder is characterized by having
only major depressive episodes. And so what you can see is that
all of these mood disorders are characterized
by fluctuations from a person’s baseline. So if that black line is where
the person is when they’re feeling normal or well, you
can see in Bipolar type I, you’re getting these wide
fluctuations up and down. In Bipolar II, you’re
getting the downs and maybe more mild fluctuations
above the baseline. That’s the hypomanias. And in unipolar
depression, you’re really just getting
the down fluctuations. They’re not getting elevated. So what can be
difficult about when you’re sitting in
a doctor’s office and they’re trying to
determine if you have bipolar disorder or unipolar or
major depressive disorder, the challenge is that depression
looks pretty much the same, more or less, whether
you’re bipolar or unipolar. And as a result, 40% to 60% of
patients with bipolar disorder will get misdiagnosed
with unipolar depression and subsequently
get, perhaps, a delay in the appropriate treatment
that they should be receiving. So why does this happen? Maybe the patient can’t remember
or isn’t aware that they’ve ever had mania or hypomania. Maybe the psychiatrist
doesn’t ask about it or they’re focused
on the depression. There could be a lot
of different reasons. Another big reason
is that about half of bipolar disorder patients
experience depression as their very
first mood episode. So they’ve never even
had a mania or hypomania. That’s not going to
happen until later in their course of illness. And at the time they’re
sitting in the doctor’s office, nobody knows yet that they
have bipolar disorder. Now, that being said,
there are certain clues that a person might, if
they’re sitting in your office, they’re depressed,
and they may never have been manic or hypomanic,
that they might actually have bipolar disorder. So there are
certain risk factors that have been established. If your first major
depressive episode occurred at under
25 years of age, that increases the
likelihood that you’re bipolar by two-fold. If you have a first degree
relative with bipolar disorder– this would
be a parent or a sibling or a child– you’re
two and a half times more likely to be bipolar. If you’ve had a
history of psychosis, whether the psychosis occurred
during depression or mania or hypomania– and
in this case, we’re talking about
someone who’s maybe been psychotic during
depression– then that’s a three-fold increase
in the likelihood that you actually
have bipolar disorder. Another thing to bear in
mind is that bipolar disorder is a heritable illness much
more so than major depressive disorder. So if you compare
the two illnesses, major depressive disorder
is much more prevalent in the population. As many as 10% to
17% of individuals will have an episode
of major depression. Bipolar I disorder, having
had a manic episode, only occurs in about
1% of the population. If you have a first
degree relative with one of these disorders–
major depressive disorder, if you have a first degree
relative with major depression, your odds of having
major depression go up about three-fold. If you have a first degree
relative with bipolar disorder, your odds go up tenfold
of having bipolar illness. The identical twin risk. You can see if you
have an identical twin with major depressive disorder,
the chances of the other twin having it are 20% to 45%. Whereas in Bipolar
I disorder, it’s significantly
higher, 40% to 70%. Although it’s not
100%, which suggests that there’s more than
just genes involved in the cause of
bipolar disorder. And we don’t fully
understand this illness and the causes of it. But what we do know, from
estimates of large data sets, is that the heritability
of bipolar disorder, which means that the
amount of the risk that’s due to genetic factors, is about
85% compared to only 30% to 40% of major depressive disorder. So what we can say to distill
it down to the simplest terms is that in major
depressive disorder, genetics and
environment probably have a similar level of impact
on your risk for the illness. Whereas in bipolar
disorder, genetics have a far greater
amount of impact on your risk of getting the
illness than your environment. But the environment
still probably matters. So talking more now
about bipolar depression. Depression does account for the
majority of the illness burden amongst patients with
bipolar disorder. So these are based on
some longitudinal studies in the NIMH collaborative
depression study where patients were
followed over time with sequential interviews. And they were able to
estimate how much percentage of time they spent in
different mood states. And they separated this out
by Bipolar I and Bipolar II disorder. And as you can see in both
types of bipolar disorder, about half the time
people are actually symptom-free on average. In Bipolar I disorder,
then another third of the time they’re depressed
and about 15% of the time they’re manic or mixed. In Bipolar II disorder, you
can see it’s almost like 50/50. They’re either depressed
or they are symptom-free, with a very small
proportion of the time being spent in a hypomanic
or elevated state. And so this is important,
as patients with Bipolar II disorder might
question whether they have bipolar disorder
because they’re just always either
OK or depressed and not the high periods. And this really emphasizes
that that’s classic. That’s not out of the ordinary. Patients with
Bipolar II disorder will tend to have a greater
burden of depression in their illness than Bipolar
I. But you can see here that depression in both
types of bipolar disorder does predominate the
course of the illness. Another important
thing to know is that if you look at studies of
functioning in bipolar disorder and you look at the impact
of depression on functioning, it really has a dramatic
impact on occupational and just general life functioning. And it seems to be more
pronounced than the impact that mania or hypomania
would have on functioning. And it’s important to
see here in this graph that as you get more
symptoms of depression, your overall functional
impairment increases. But you can start seeing
that increase even at milder sub-syndromal
levels of depression. And so what’s
going on this scale is a depression rating score. The higher numbers
are more severe. And as you go up on
the y-axis, you’re seeing percent of people
impaired in their functioning. And even at sub-threshold
levels of depression, you’re seeing a dramatic
increase in how many people are impaired in their functioning. So treating even milder
sub-threshold depression symptoms can be an
important target. And bipolar depression,
as you might expect, has a large impact
on risk of suicide. Now, what the
table shows is just the risk of suicide in
bipolar disorder in general. Attempted suicide, estimated
annual rate of 3.9%. And death by suicide, the
estimated annual rate is 1.4%. While these numbers, they’re
all less than 5% or so, you can still see compared
to the general population they’re manifold higher. And suicide attempts
in bipolar disorder are far more likely to occur
when people are depressed or in a mixed state with
some symptoms of depression along with mood
elevation rather than in a manic or hypomanic state. And individuals who over time
have more of a depression predominant illness
that experience a lot more depression
than mood elevation are more likely to
attempt suicide than those who tend to have more manias. And depression and
bipolar disorder affects not only the patients,
but their caregivers, the family and friends who take
care of them when they’re ill. Bipolar depressive
episodes appear to be associated with
a greater caregiver burden than manic or
hypomanic episodes. And increased
caregiver burden is associated with
even the caregivers becoming more depressed and
having more health problems. So it’s an important
thing to remember that treating the
bipolar depression, it’s about treating the patient
as well as people around them, making sure everyone
has support. There’s a lot of
great support groups out there, if you’re familiar
with NAMI or the DBSA, Depression Bipolar
Support Alliance. If you’re a family
member dealing with bipolar disorder
in a loved one, it’s really important
to get support that you need because
this illness affects everyone who’s in the
circle around the patient. Now, how do we treat
bipolar depression? I’m going to provide a little
bit of an overview of bipolar treatment in general,
but then hone in on what we do for depression. This is a lot more detailed
than you need to understand, but the key takeaway
points from this chart are that when we approach
the treatment of bipolar disorder as doctors,
we tend to approach it based on what phase of the
illness the person is in. So it’s not like there’s one
treatment for bipolar disorder period and you just use it. You have to think about
what state the patient’s in. And so a lot of
the drugs are meant to target the acute phase
of bipolar disorder, and that can either be acute
mania or acute depression or it could be an
acute mixed state. And so drugs that get
FDA approval will get approved for one
of those states. Either they’re
approved for mania or they’re approved
for depression because the clinical
trials specifically went after that mood state. Once you’re recovered from the
acute phase, then what you do is you shift into this
what we call maintenance phase of treatment
where the goal is not to get you out of
the illness phase, but really to prevent
or delay recurrence of the depression or the mania. And so there are specific drugs
that are FDA approved just for maintenance. And often, it’s
the same drugs that are used for the acute
phase will get also used in the maintenance phase. So these are the different
FDA approved agents for bipolar disorder separated
out by the phase of illness. One of the things to notice
here is that in 1970, all we had was lithium, really. And then chlorpromazine
came along in ’73 and got approval for mania. And then there was
a really long lag there where there was really
nothing else going on. And then in the mid ’90s,
we realized that Depakote worked for acute mania. And then a lot of
interest came about after that to look at the
other anti-convulsants and see whether they might
work in bipolar disorder. A lot of that didn’t
really pan out. It did turn out
that lamotrigine, which you can see on
the longer term list, looked very promising initially
for bipolar depression, but it didn’t really
separate from placebo, but ultimately got FDA approved
for longer term maintenance treatment of bipolar disorder. And then most of the action
really happened in the 2000s when the anti-psychotics
started getting approvals one after another for acute mania at
first and also for maintenance treatments. But what you can really see
here is under acute depression, we only have three FDA
approved treatments. This is really the huge
unmet need in pharmaceuticals for bipolar disorder. And it’s not that they haven’t
tried some of these agents for depression. It’s a lot of them
haven’t proven to be more effective than placebo. So what we have now is
three FDA approved agents for bipolar disorder. Only three, despite
the fact that this is the most prominent illness
phase in bipolar disorder. So what I talked about in this
slide is efficacy, really. So what drugs work,
what drugs beat placebo in the clinical trials. But the other side of
the coin is tolerability, and this is a huge challenge
in treating bipolar disorder. A lot of the
medications that we use have really bad side effects. And so one way to think about
it is the schematic here. There’s a pyramid showing
you at the bottom what are the medications that tend
to have the fewest side effects. And these will be things
like antidepressants or newer mood stabilizers
like Lamictal or lamotrigine. As you start going
up the pyramid, you get drugs that have a more
moderate level of side effects. And this would be older mood
stabilizers like lithium, divalproex, carbamazepine. And some of the more recently
approved second generation anti-psychotics like
aripiprazole, ziprasidone, asenapine, and lurasidone. And then at the
top here, that tend to have the highest
liability for side effects are the older second generation
anti-psychotics, risperidone, olanzapine, quetiapine, and
clozapine are listed there. And if we were to put an
arrow showing efficacy, it might go in the
opposite direction. You tend to get the most
robust efficacy up at the top and it tends to
get a little weaker as you get to the bottom. So we’re always doing
this balancing act of how to get efficacy
balanced with tolerability with the medications
that we use. And so that’s really
one of the challenges in treating this illness. So what I’m showing you
here are the three FDA approved treatments
for bipolar depression. Olanzapine fluoxetine
combination, quetiapine, and lurasidone. And I’ve listed the most
common adverse effects. And cost is also a
concern for many people. Olanzapine fluoxetine
combination was the first treatment
to get FDA approval for bipolar depression. Olanzapine alone
and fluoxetine alone didn’t seem to really cut it. The combination of the
two synergistically worked very well. The downside, though,
is that olanzapine– I don’t know if you’re
familiar with it– has a huge risk of weight gain. Upwards of half the people
who take it, maybe even more, will experience significant
weight gain on this medication. Metabolic side effects
go along with that. Dyslipidemia, insulin
resistance, diabetes risk. And it can be sedating as well. Cost-wise, it’s kind
of in the middle. If you had to pay out of
pocket, it might be a little bit difficult. But usually,
it’s covered by insurance because it is generic. Quetiapine or
Seroquel is well known for its sedating effects, which
sometimes is not a bad thing. If you’re having a lot of
insomnia or a lot of anxiety, it can be calming. But many people find that
it’s just too sedating to be able to tolerate. And it can also cause
some weight gain and some of the metabolic side effects. Not as pronounced as olanzapine,
but the risk is still there. And cost-wise, it’s also
available in generics and it’s usually
covered by insurance. Lurasidone was the most
recently FDA approved agent for bipolar depression. It’s looking promising
in terms of tolerability because it seems
more weight neutral. Some people will gain weight
on it, but it’s not common. And it’s not
particularly sedating. The downside of lurasidone is it
can cause a side effect called akathisia which is really
a feeling of restlessness, an agitation. And so people with
anxiety may not like this medication so much. It can also cause nausea. And if your insurance
covers it, that’s great. Even if it does, you may
have a very high co-pay. It’s still pretty expensive. It’s not available in generic. If you have to
pay out of pocket, it’s probably a deal
breaker for that medicine. So these are our three options. As you can see, they’re
not by any means perfect. They did prove their efficacy
in the clinical trials. I have seen them
work in my patients. But they have some
side effect liabilities and/or cost liabilities. So as clinicians, we
often start moving to the non-FDA approved
medications as alternatives. And I’ve listed the most common
ones here that you might see. Lamictal or
lamotrigine, lithium, and the antidepressants. And lamotrigine gets commonly
used because, as I said, in the earlier
clinical trials it looked like there
was a signal there where it was going to be
placebo for treating depression in the acute phase. And then when they
looked at more studies, it wasn’t replicated. But because of that and
because of the maintenance trials which show that it has
a good depression prevention benefit– meaning
once you’re stable, it seems to delay recurrence of
depression– it’s commonly used to treat bipolar depression. It’s not an actual
antidepressant. It’s an anti-convulsant,
which maybe helps in that it’s not as likely to
cause a treatment related mania. There is this rare
risk of a serious rash. Very rare, but it’s
life threatening. So we go up very
slowly on the dose so it takes longer to get you to
a therapeutic dose of Lamictal or lamotrigine. But it is quite inexpensive. It’s been available in
generic for quite some time, and it’s almost always
covered by insurance. So you might see doctors
prescribing lamotrigine often for bipolar depression. Lithium is tried and
true first line treatment for bipolar disorder. There is some
modest efficacy data suggesting it’s better than
placebo for bipolar depression. It’s not as robustly effective
as the FDA approved ones that I’ve already described. Lithium has a laundry list
of potential side effects that not everyone
will experience. But the most common ones being
tremor, really excessive thirst and urination, and
potential complications for the kidney and the thyroid
that require monitoring. It’s very inexpensive and
almost universally covered by insurance. antidepressants. Now, this is somewhat
more controversial. They are amongst the most
commonly prescribed treatments for bipolar disorder still. They have some liabilities. They tend to be
pretty well tolerated in terms of side effects. And this is probably
why they’re commonly used, in addition to
the fact that we just have a lack of adequate
treatments for bipolar depression. There has in the past been
a lot of fear and concern that giving an antidepressant
to a bipolar disorder patient will make them manic. This does happen. It doesn’t happen quite as
often as we thought it did. And so we actually
have started thinking this is more of a rare
potential adverse effect of antidepressants, but not the
top of our list of concerns. And particularly if you take an
antidepressant with something that is anti-manic like
lithium or an anti-psychotic, that risk seems
to be fairly low. Most antidepressants
are pretty cheap except for some of the brand
new ones that have recently come out. Most are covered by insurance. So I want to spend
a little more time on the antidepressant
thing because they are so commonly prescribed. They are a topic of
a lot of controversy. The real problem
with antidepressants is not that they’re
going to make you manic or there is the suicide
risk in younger people, but that also is controversial. What’s really demonstrated
time and time again in large studies, meta analyses,
is that they really just don’t work for bipolar disorder. So what you can see
here is a meta analysis of antidepressants in
acute bipolar depression. Antidepressants
compared to placebo yielded very similar
rates of response in remission from depression. And just to go back to
my earlier point here, this is showing rates
of switch to mania. So how often people
on these medicines in these clinical
trials became manic. And you can see they’re
almost identical rates in the antidepressant
and the placebo. So there really
doesn’t seem to be this dramatically increased
risk with antidepressants of getting manic. But the main problem is really
that they’re not effective. We use them a lot because
certain patients do respond. Do we know whether
they’re really responding or whether it’s
a placebo effect? No. We’ll never know that. Do we know whether
they’re responding or if their depression was just
going to get better anyways? We don’t know. But we do know that
antidepressants are easy to tolerate. They’re cheap. They’re something to try when
the other medications are either not feasible
or don’t work. We often add them to
other medications. We do use these medicines. I have seen them work. But if you look at
large data sets, it’s just not supportive
of these medications for bipolar disorder. So something to bear in mind. I wanted to touch on
adjunct of psychotherapy in bipolar disorder. It’s not recommended that
someone with bipolar disorder have psychotherapy alone
without medications. It hasn’t proven to
be effective enough. You tend to need medications
plus psychotherapy, and adding psychotherapy
to medications is highly recommended. It can be very helpful. A few particular
types of psychotherapy have been studied
in bipolar disorder. That would be
family-focused therapy, cognitive behavioral
therapy, and interpersonal and social rhythms therapy. And what some
studies have shown is that outcomes are better if
you receive psychotherapy plus medications as
opposed to meds alone. It seems to be
that psychotherapy is more effective for
relapse prevention rather than the acute episodes. So again, in that maintenance
phase of treatments, adding psychotherapy can
prolong wellness and keep people well longer than
just meds alone. If you’re actually in an
acute episode of depression, it hasn’t really panned out
that adding psychotherapy speeds recovery. There are some other
treatment modalities aside from medications that we
might turn to if medications aren’t working. The one at the top,
electroconvulsive therapy– this might be
something you might be more familiar with, it’s
been around for a long time– can be very effective
for treatment resistant depression in unipolar
and bipolar disorder. It is highly invasive. Requires you often to be in
the hospital for the beginning of the treatment. You do need general
anesthesia to undergo electroconvulsive therapy. There are some
cognitive side effects that some people just don’t
want to have to deal with. You can get memory loss. You can get anesthesia
related adverse effects. So you go to ECT when the
medications aren’t working and the depression
is severe enough that both the doctor
and the patient agree that this is
what needs to happen. But it can work when
everything else has not worked. I’ve listed here repetitive
transcranial magnetic stimulation, rTMS. This is a newer treatment. It’s not so new anymore. It’s now gotten FDA
approval for treating treatment resistant depression. It’s a lot less invasive
and time intensive than ECT. You can do it entirely
as an outpatient and you don’t need anesthesia. You basically receive
local magnetic stimulation to the scalp. And it’s unclear how
effective this is going to be for bipolar depression. There really isn’t a
lot of data out there. More data has been available
for unipolar depression. But it might be
something to try if you want to go the route of a
more intense intervention but don’t want to do the ECT. It’s probably going
to be expensive because it’s hard
to get insurance to cover this treatment. Ketamine is something that’s
very novel, very experimental. It’s being studied. Not available commercially
as a treatment. But it’s shown in studies to
have very rapid antidepressant effects. Now, most of the treatments
we have for depression take six weeks, sometimes
eight weeks to work. Well, ketamine
works immediately. What they’ve been
looking at it in is people who are very
depressed and suicidal. They’ll get the
ketamine IV infusion. And almost immediately, the
suicidal ideation resolves. Their depression lifts. They’re feeling better. Unfortunately, the effect seems
to only last a few days, maybe a week or two at most. And then it goes away. And they haven’t yet
been able to find a way to sustain the effect
without additional infusion. So it’s not a very practical
treatment at this point. It’s still pretty experimental. The actual mechanism
is still in question, whether this is something that’s
really going to be sustainable. But I list it here as
something that’s exciting, a new inroad into treating
difficult to treat depressions. I wanted to end on a
positive note here. I’ve done some
research in this area. My mentor, Dr. Ketter, has done
a lot of research in this area. Bipolar disorder is,
as I’ve mentioned, a very disabling and
disturbing illness. But there are some
things about it that there could be a little
bit of a silver lining here, that there is a link
between bipolar disorder and increased creativity. And we can see here,
many eminent individuals who have suffered from
bipolar disorder, some of whom have been public about it. This is a study that
was done by Ludwig who looked at over
1,000 biographies of eminent individuals and
looked at rates of mood disorders– so not
just bipolar disorder, but also unipolar depression–
in these individuals. You can see clustered at the
top are the more creative arts. Poetry, fiction, theater, music. You can see that the
rates of depression are quite a bit higher up
there than you see down at the bottom where we
get the military, science, public office type people. And then also the
rates of mania seem to be a little bit more
prevalent as you go up into these more creative arts. There’s been a lot of
studies on this topic, and this is just one example. But it does seem to be
that bipolar disorder is over-represented in
creative individuals, and creativity may be
over-represented amongst people with bipolar disorder. And what it seems to be is there
is some kind of an interaction here where bipolar disorder is
associated with a specific type of personality or temperament. And that, in turn, interacts
with the bipolar illness to fuel greater creativity. And so if you look at
creative individuals who have no mental illness and
patients with bipolar disorder, you can find a lot of
crossover in their personality and temperamental traits. It’s just food for thought. But it’s something to feel
good about, that there might be some strengths
despite the suffering of the different illness phases. So to summarize,
bipolar disorder is a chronic and
recurrent illness. It affects up to 4%
of the population, is a leading cause of
disability around the world. Depression really does account
for the majority of the illness burden of bipolar disorder in
terms of both time spent ill and amount of
functional impairment. There’s an unmet need for
effective and well-tolerated treatments for
bipolar depression. Creativity and
creative achievements may be increased in people
with bipolar disorder. This is potentially mediated
by personality and temperament. Wanted to post some of
our current studies, if you’re interested. We are doing a study right
now of a medicine called Suvorexant, a recently
FDA approved treatment for insomnia that we’re
looking at in bipolar disorder patients who have insomnia. And that’s for patients
ages 18 and older who have bipolar
disorder, are currently experiencing insomnia. I’ve listed the
phone number there you can contact if you’re
interested in that. Infliximab for
bipolar depression is another study for
patients ages 18 to 65 diagnosed with Bipolar
I or II disorder currently experiencing
symptoms of depression. Please note that’s a
different phone number. There’s two different phone
numbers for these studies. And I’m happy to take any
questions at this point. Go ahead. Me? Yeah. Is it fair to say that there
is no quantitative diagnostic technique for bipolar disorder
as well as other kinds of mental disorders? Is it fair to say that? So the question is,
is it fair to say there is no quantitative
diagnostic technique for bipolar disorder as well
as mental disorders in general. I would say at this point in
time it is fair to say yes, that we lack that type
of quantitative data. We’re making great strides
in looking at genetics, looking at other
types of bio-markers, neuro-imaging that might help
us at some point in the future be able to tell
what a person has. At this point, we
are still, what we might say, in the “dark ages.” We’re really relying on what
the patient sits in front of us and tells us. We’re relying on what their
family members tell us about their behavior. It’s very clinically driven
interview and history based diagnoses at this point. And the folks at the National
Institute of Mental Health are very unhappy
with the situation and really want to
drive forth research that looks at more
quantitative ways to diagnose and understand
these illnesses. A follow-up question to that
is that if that is the case, then it makes your job, to
treat bipolar disorder with any of those medications
and then try to assess the efficacy of any treatment. So the point was made, it
makes it very challenging, yes, to diagnose and
treat the illness. And as I’ve suggested,
it can be challenging. We do look for certain
clinical markers that suggest a risk of bipolar. Back there. I’m wondering if
you could comment on the link between ADHD
and bipolar disorder. How often do you see it? Are they related in some way? And with respect to ADHD in
a person that has bipolar, can you prescribe Adderall? Should they be using Adderall? Good question. So I was asked about the
link between ADHD and bipolar disorder and how do you
treat– specifically you’re asking how do you treat ADHD
in someone who has co-morbid bipolar disorder. So this is an issue
that comes up very often amongst pediatric populations. There does appear to be
some link and an increased co-morbidity of
these two illnesses, particularly in children. What it seems to be is that
patients with bipolar disorder have a higher rate of ADHD than
kids without bipolar disorder. But if you look at
people with ADHD, there doesn’t seem
to be an increased rate of bipolar disorder
amongst those patients. But some people
would beg to differ. But in general, it
seems to be the case. So there is a link. In adults, ADHD tends to not
be as commonly diagnosed. There is some thought that
it burns out in adulthood. So it comes up more and it’s
better studied in children. Can you treat the ADHD? What is ADHD? Sorry. Attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder. Yeah. And can you treat it? From what I’ve seen,
the risk is there that the stimulant medication
can exacerbate the mood symptoms and potentially
trigger mood elevation if you start one of these
medicines in someone with bipolar disorder. But there have been
other researchers who have argued that if you
adequately treat the bipolar disorder with mood stabilizers,
anti-psychotics, et cetera, that you can then
safely treat the ADHD with careful
monitoring to make sure that they’re not experiencing
destabilization of their mood. It’s still tricky. You got to make sure,
because these stimulants can cause insomnia. Insomnia is a big problem
in bipolar disorder, and you don’t want
to make it worse. But I would say
it’s controversial, but there’s an argument to be
made that if you adequately treat the bipolar
disorder first then you can start going on to
start treating the ADHD. Are there any new medications
or treatment strategies, maybe with less
medication, that you’re aware of that look promising? So the question is are there
new treatment strategies that maybe are non-medication
oriented that look promising. So some of the ones
that I brought up here, I don’t know how promising they
are because that the data just isn’t there in bipolar disorder. For rTMS, for example. But this might be a treatment
that can be helpful. It’s a non-medication
treatment for people who have failed to
respond to medications. Ketamine, I know there was a
study in bipolar depression that looked good. But again, this has
its own limitations. So there’s other advances
being made in TMS looking at specific parts
of the brain to target, looking at different
modalities of TMS. That’s the new horizon of
what people are looking at. But right now, I
think we’re really dealing with medications. And most of the
development has been in anti-psychotics,
which unfortunately do carry a lot of side effects. So we do have a great need for
more discovery in this area. The answer to this
question is yes, please. Is there any hope for food,
nutrition, foods or supplements and exercise going with
the person’s strengths and lessening the medication? So the question is can food,
dietary changes, or exercise, more natural approaches, be
effective in bipolar disorder. So there are some what we
call nutraceuticals that have gained some attention. These are things like
inositol, deplin– which is involved in
folic acid, processing it, somewhere along the
pathway of serotonin. There’s been some
excitement about these. They haven’t really
gone that far or proven themselves that well. But there are some doctors
out there who prescribe these. And patients will say they
have maybe a mild or moderate effect. Food, I’m not as familiar with. I know that maintaining
a healthy diet and healthy exercise regimen
is always a good thing. And exercise, in particular,
can be a mood lifter, can be very helpful
in depression. If you’re dealing with bipolar
depression, unless it’s mild I would say that you’re not
going to get much mileage out of just doing these
natural things. You are going to need
something more intensive. But if you’re on good
medicine and you’re getting a little bit of mild
depression, then certainly I always recommend that my
patients get more active. They start doing more social
things, being more involved. And exercise, of course,
to maybe get themselves out of it without having to
increase or add more medicine. So there’s some room for that. It’s not going to be really that
helpful in a very severe case of depression. But yes, good question,
thanks, In the back. Has there been any history of
treating bipolar depression with EMDR? So the question is has there
been experience treating bipolar depression with EMDR? EMDR is a form of
psychotherapy that has gained a lot of momentum in
the treatment of particularly trauma related mental
illnesses like PTSD. And I am not aware
of any studies looking at this particular
modality in bipolar disorder. Just speaking
anecdotally, I have a number of patients who do
pursue that type of therapy. They find it helpful
and therapeutic. What we do know about
psychotherapy in general is that the key
factor supporting the success of the
therapy is the alliance between the patient
and their therapist. So there are these
evidence-based treatments like CBT. They are very good
for clinical trials because they’re manual based. They’re very regimented. So you can study them in
these controlled fashions. But I would say that if
you feel a good connection with your therapist
and you’re responding well to whatever
their approach is, it’s probably going to help you. Yes? Once of your slides mentioned
interpersonal and social rhythm therapy. What is that? What is that? And what is the role? In what phase of the
illness is it useful? So I mentioned interpersonal
and social rhythm psychotherapy. And what is that? Where does it help? So this was developed
out of Pittsburgh. There is already a type
of psychotherapy called interpersonal
psychotherapy that’s widely used in manual based. Interpersonal
psychotherapy focuses in on an interpersonal problem
in one’s life and really hones in on that as the source
of a person’s distress and tries to break that
down and work on it over a number of sessions. Interpersonal and
social rhythms therapy is building on that model. They’re adding
into it a component that was felt to be
particularly relevant for bipolar disorder,
which is social rhythms. The idea that your social
rhythm, your social routine, your interpersonal patterns are
very important in maintaining your mood stability. So they will focus on aspects of
routine, medication adherence, sleep, hygiene. Things like that
are very important. And what phase of illness? Again, as I mentioned,
these therapies have mostly proven to be
effective in the maintenance phase, in delaying the
recurrence of mood episodes when somebody’s
achieved stability rather than getting someone
out of an acute episode. Yes? What are options are there for
insomnia in bipolar disorder? Well, one of them,
we’re looking at here in our study, Suvorexant. But that aside. So the question is what are the
treatment options for insomnia in bipolar disorder? The same treatment
options that you would see for
anyone with insomnia are often used in
bipolar disorder. So the benzodiazepine,
sometimes we use. The benzodiazepine-like
hypnotics, like zolpidem. Or trazodone is commonly used. Now, with bipolar disorder, we
often give very sedating mood stabilizing medications anyway. So sometimes we will
leverage that to try to help someone sleep. So quetiapine, for
example, if we’re giving it for a mood stabilizing
medication, will often help treat
insomnia as well. If somebody can’t handle the
high enough dose of quetiapine to get the mood
benefit out of it, sometimes we’ll use a low
dose of quetiapine just to get sleep better on track. Dr. Ketter likes to
use clozapine for sleep in patients with very
refractory insomnia who have taken boatloads
of other medicines and aren’t responding. So clozapine’s an
anti-psychotic that requires a lot of monitoring
with blood levels. And you check your
white count once a week. But it’s a very
sedating medicine. It can help people with
refractory insomnia. So I would say using
the standard sleep medicines that are out there. And if those fail,
then trying to go to the anti-psychotics
which have sedating effects is a common strategy. Yes? Is there any
information out there regarding the use
of medical marijuana in treating bipolar at all? So the question was raised
as to any data or information on medical marijuana
for bipolar disorder. To my knowledge, there aren’t
any really big studies on this. I tend to think if
someone’s using it, it’s probably
going to help them, if anything, with sleep, maybe
a little bit with anxiety. It’s probably not
going to do anything for depression or mania. And so that’s just based
on clinical experience. Studies need to be done. I haven’t seen any
big studies on that. Yes? You didn’t mention this,
but what is rapid cycling? What is rapid cycling,
is the question. Rapid cycling is defined
as having four or more mood episodes within a
12 month period. I didn’t talk about
it specifically. It’s kind of a whole
other area of discussion. It does affect what
sort of treatment you may want to choose. If you have rapid
cycling depression, you may be having lots
of episodes of depression in the same year or
you may have depression alternating with mania or
hypomania throughout the year. We tend to think that
anti-convulsants like Depakote or lamotrigine might be better
for rapid cycling bipolar disorder. But you can still try lithium. You can still try
the anti-psychotics. There aren’t a lot of
great studies on treatments for rapid cycling. But the common
thinking is that you’d want to switch to an
anti-convulsant to try to get that under control. You want to avoid
antidepressants in rapid cycling. That’s another thing, because
they might exacerbate it. Are there any injectables
medications for bipolar? The question is are there
any injectable medications for bipolar disorder. Yes. Particularly for the
maintenance phase of treatment. Risperidone
long-acting injectable is FDA approved
for the maintenance treatment of bipolar disorder. Injectable medicines, much more
commonly used in schizophrenia. But they can be very helpful for
patients who are having trouble sticking with their meds,
who go off their meds, but they have good family
support and good provider support and they’re able to
get into their doctor’s office once every month or every two
weeks to get the injection. So risperidone is
the only one that is approved for
bipolar specifically. But any of the other ones–
aripiprazole or paliperidone– could also potentially be used. Yes? How do you distinguish between
schizoaffective disorder and a psychosis
associated with mania? Those are two separate
things, I think, and how do you
distinguish those? The question was
asked how do you distinguish between
schizoaffective disorder and psychotic mania. That’s a good question. And if you’re in the hospital
with a psychotic episode where you’re also manic, it’s
hard to know at that moment whether there is
a schizoaffective or a bipolar disorder. And the difference being
schizoaffective disorder is a much more predominately
psychotic illness where the patients would
be psychotic even when they’re not in a mood episode. Whereas bipolar disorder, if
you’re going to be psychotic it has to be limited to
the actual mood episode. And the psychosis
won’t occur outside of the depression or the mania. So it’s a tough one to call
if you’re in the hospital and you just see a
snapshot of that patient in a moment in time. You really need the
longitudinal follow-up to understand if the
psychosis persists even when the mood episode resolves. And that would lean towards
a schizoaffective diagnosis. Yeah. Does the intensity of
an individual’s bipolar change over their lifetime,
or does it stay steady, or is there a lot of
individual variation when you look at one
individual over time. I’m sorry, what was the
first part of your question? Does the what? The intensity of– The intensity. –bipolar or the degree
of the bipolar condition, does it change over
time on one individual, or is there a lot of
variation on that? Is that a predictable path? Does the intensity
of the illness change over time
within individuals in a predictable way? So there are
theories about this. There is an argument
of something called kindling theory. Robert Post came up
with this theory, that it’s like a
seizure disorder where one seizure
begets more seizures. And epilepsy kind of
progresses in that manner. So he likened bipolar
disorder to epilepsy, saying episodes
beget more episodes. So as the illness wears on,
episodes come more frequently, they’re more spontaneous,
less related to stressors. So that’s a model of illness
progression suggesting the illness gets more
intense over time. What we have seen in reality,
actuality, doesn’t necessarily support that. We do see a lot of variability
across individuals, that some will do
better over time, will get the memo that they
need to take their meds, and they’ll stay
on them and they’ll function better and be OK. Other people, you do see
the progressive pattern where they’ll get
worse over time despite how much you treat them. So I think there isn’t really
an easy answer to that. There’s a lot of heterogeneity. And now even with
introducing these subtypes of bipolar disorder,
Bipolar I and II, you’re going to see even more
variability in how the illness course proceeds. We have enough time,
one more question. Someone I haven’t heard from. You. Good. Say a little bit more
about the heritability. I have trouble interpreting
the 85% statistic you quotes. Yeah. OK. So do you want me to
go back to that slide? Not necessarily. All right. So the question was asked
as far as heritability, how do you interpret the
85% heritability of bipolar disorder. Those heritability
estimates come from family and twin
studies, looking at how much the illness hangs
together within a family, for example. And you guesstimate from
that how much of the illness is due to genetics. So the 85% heritability is a
way of saying that about 85% of your risk of the illness
is due to genetic factors rather than other factors such
as environmental stressors, geography, things like that. So the 85% suggests
that bipolar disorder is a very heritable illness. And we could see
that in family trees. You could see it with
this increased risk with first degree relatives. That’s really the
take home message, that bipolar
disorder is something that runs in families. There are genetic aspects of it. We haven’t yet
discovered the gene. There’s no gene,
apparently, that causes bipolar disorder,
which has been disappointing. But we can’t really
say where that risk is coming from in terms
of specific genes. But we do know there’s a
large, large genetic component to the illness. Thank you, Dr. Miller. You’re welcome. [APPLAUSE]

95 thoughts on “Understanding Bipolar Depression

  1. I am going through my depression phase now… it sucks to have this so-called disease called Bipolar 😢 suicidal thoughts and negativity is festering in me plus all the past memories are going in my brains

  2. Cheers for the Video clip! Sorry for the intrusion, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about – Proutklarton Defeat problems Plan (probably on Google)? It is an awesome one off guide for discovering how to get rid of depression minus the headache. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my m8 after many years got great results with it.

  3. I'm in mania now, I swear if I was in that room, I would go up and kiss that woman without caring. and shout out loud that I'm sooo excited and I'm confident. I ran in my backyard a moment ago. so excited yet sad because I know it's just a moment. but I'm enjoying it. also, don't mention the racing thoughts in my mind.

  4. Guess I just can't grasp the concept. Is bipolar depression the same as bipolar? My psychiatrist told me she wouldn't diagnose me as bipolar until I had a manic episode. I don't stay up all night, but there are times when I feel amazing! I feel I look great, when normally I feel fat and disgusting. I clean the house while rocking out to music, when most of the time I can barely get off the couch. Days where I am the kindest most soft spoken mother, when most days I'm yelling and demanding. I don't understand how she doesn't see the good and bad. She said bipolar depression is just depression that doesn't respond to antidepressants and has me starting on a trial dose of latuda

  5. Hi miss, the lady in red… I need to tell u that I am a 28 year old girl…. Lives in Delhi… Divorced… And have all most all the symptoms of bipolar and other mentioned disorders… But I can prove u that this is not a illness, let me prove u, point number one u ur self mentioned that bipolar disorder suffers are creative… According to ur graph…. Becoz we think beyond life… I my self think….. And I am not ill… I fell more enthusiastic which I was never about business, I never realized my self reflection before… I m not depressed… But i am right now thinking out of ordinary… Trust me… If u wana contact me then I can chat with u and prove u wrong… There r things which u r missing

  6. I wana talk to NY one from ur end.. U guys are wrong….. I have seen beyond life in my dreams… And science says dreams are a subconscious mixed kind of memories… But I have experienced some thing… Which I can't share with any one unless I find some one wise……..

  7. Is there a means of getting assistance with these issues that would be affordable? I'm always so worried about seeking assistance and improving my life because of how costly medicine or a simple consultation might be.

  8. I made a vlog about my depression story and I would love for everyone to check it out on my channel! It would mean so much to help as many people as I can who struggle with mental illness! Thanks!

  9. CBD marijuana changed my life. Just like marijuana benefit wise but no mongy high. Cured my depression. BOSTON HEMPIRE has amazing buds

  10. SPECT imaging taking the guessing out of it…checklists are good, but really need the brain images as each person is different. https://www.amenclinics.com/

  11. I have felt horrible for the last three months. My family made be going out of business. I have family members that depend on me that I can't help anymore or enough to make a difference. I can't sleep at night if I do I dream of my predicament. I've always tried to do the right thing after I grew up. Always said yes to help from friends. I have family that's getting old and sick I dread the future.seems like any topic I think of causes me pain . Anyway anxiety fear helplessness indecisiveness is wearing me out. I don't smoke or drink or illegal drugs. If I lose my job I fear minimum wage will be in my future I can't make it on that. I think I'm depressed but under the circumstances any other condition would be impossible. I've never listened to poor people talk about their problems but now I hear them loud and clear. I tend to only help family with money problems. Who's going to help me. I'm 57 my back hurts I have sports injuries in the shoulder and hips . I can't work like a 20 something. No one will ever see this but I bet lots of folks know what I'm talking about.

  12. I have bipolar disorder and a lot of this video was extremely enlightening. Some of it, extremely disappointing as medical marijuana could benefit many people suffering and it is a shame that simplistic studies haven't already been done to test the effectiveness. Also, my doctor had recently just told me that "an antidepressant is not in order as it will just cause mania." What I am so sick of is doctors thinking arrogantly in this way because you just disproved this doctor's statement and said that there is a lot of data disproving that. There will be no long term benefit for anyone suffering if these doctors keep thinking in their own way thinking they are smarter than data, or thinking they can consult with a sufferer for less than 15 minutes and have "great" advice and give awesome prescriptions that help. In my case, none of it has help. Every medicine sedates the f*** out of you, gives you terrible side effects, with the only benefit being that you have no more mania anymore (due to the fact that you can barely even get out of bed.) I have ADHD as well, and as the lady said it is common to have both and treating them together is tricky. They are in fear that a stimulant medication will cause mania as well. Tbh, adderal helped more than any of these "anti psychotics", "anti convulsives", or "mood stabilizers". But……they don't want to give me that anymore as I am "at risk of abusing them" because I have a history of using street drugs (to self medicate.) It all seems really unfair to me as I just want to feel better…and they want me to be on terrible drugs with terrible side effects(make me feel worse). In my opinion, if they got their heads out of their asses, at least the doctors I've dealt with, and listen to the patient(one whom is stable enough to make sense) put their ignorance and arrogance aside, they could come up with a much better way to treat people instead of following a script and counting how many symptoms a person has, diagnosing them, and giving them the same bullshit meds that are "supposed" to work(DSM5). Another thing, with Gene's and the association of hereditary factors, I truly believe that they should look deeper into both immediate parents psyche/personality traits/disorders and study that and they would find the cause, or at least be closer to it. Instead, I believe they are stubborn and don't think outside the box enough like us bipolar folk do. Anywho, have a wonderful day and thanks for letting me rant and write a book on here.

  13. I don’t know if I have bipolar disorder. I know something is wrong but I’m having issues classifying it?
    So some mornings I’ll wake up way too excited and I feel really productive and satisfied with life, and then in the same day that evening I’ll be laying on my bed not wanting to move because it feels like such a chore and I’ll (this sounds awfully cliche) question the purpose of life and bad memories surface. Some of these nights the thoughts are too much so I can’t sleep, and I’ve gotten in the habit of having drugs (over the counter) on hand to “force” me down to sleep. Sometimes these phases are switched, and all this can happen within the span of a day but I know in the video the phases last weeks at a time so I’m kind of confused now if I still fit into the category…and I would also say that this does affect my life negatively sometimes because I may have work to do late at night but then I start hyperventilating and going into an episode for absolutely no reason that I can tell of at least. I don’t know of any cause for this, because I’ve never been abused, bullied, or really ever had such a traumatic event that I can remember ever having, but maybe I just tend to have an overactive mind? Please help I don’t really know where to start getting help.

  14. I was diagnosed with bipolar depression 6 1/2 years ago and it is one of the hardest things to live with. Everyday I have swings, happy to majorly depressed. I could be at fucking Disney land and still think about how terrible of a person I am and everything I’ve done wrong. It weighs me down and I don’t know what to do. I’ve gotten help, I took prescription medication and went to therapy and it just made it worse. Everyday I wanted a way out and I still do. I feel so trapped in my head… it’s always bad thoughts and even when I’m genuinely happy, I’m having those thoughts inside my head.

  15. I just went to the doctor and she said I might have depression. I argued with her and said I don’t, it must be my vitamins or something I’m missing because I’m not always like this it’s only sometimes. She asked me to explain and I said other times I’m very focused and have lots of energy to get my work done and sometimes I’m like this and don’t understand why I can’t concentrate and am tired. She then apologized and said she got it wrong then told me I might have bipolar disorder and not depression. I internally freaked out and pushed for a blood test anyway and left but now that I’m researching this it really is starting to make sense to me. Mental illness is such a taboo in my culture down to it not being believed in or discussed. I can’t even say anything to my family they’d just say someone cursed me or the doctors are trying to ruin me. At least now I don’t feel so lost and confused.

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  17. Hello. I suffer from bipolar depression. I’ve been hospitalized several times for suicidal ideations several times. At the moment I’m in the hospital I feel better because I’m amongst people that I can identify with. Right now I’m so depressed and I don’t know what to do. I’m not feeling suicidal but the depression is so bad I can’t function. I have no appetite and I hate when night comes. Aside from being bipolar I also suffer from panic anxiety disorder and agoraphobia. At this moment I am so overwhelmed because if I don’t say I’m suicidal the hospital won’t admit me and being at home is not helping me get better. I have a psychiatrist and a counselor but nothing seems to be working. The thing is that the medications make me either really sick or they don’t work. In the past year I have gone through a ton of meds that it makes it difficult for my psychiatrist because he’s ran out of options and is now repeating some of the meds that I have had in the past.
    How can the medical field expect people with bipolar depression to eat healthy if you don’t have an appetite, exercise if you have no strength, sleep if even medication doesn’t help 100%. I feel like I’m stuck in a corner with nowhere to go and unless I lie and say that I’m suicidal they won’t keep me in the hospital. The only reason I’m not suicidal because I promised God that I would bare in mind that He created me and my life belongs to Him not to me. Please, pray for me because I don’t know how long I can keep that promise. Iris Pérez

  18. For those who are interested in OTC(over the counter) pharmacology there are a few things out there that can help . N-acetyl-cystine (NAC) is widely available but only take it while you are depressed as it can cause mania with prolonged use. Another substance is Uridine which helps with dopamine signaling pathways. Uridine is harder to get but you can find it on amazon but it is not in the typical store. a few of my friends have also had mild success with 5-htp. Generally the less hard perscription medication the better each one of these can be taken as a supplement for temporary relief. Each of these I have taken personally to prevent and get out of depressive episodes. You can look up each one on examine(dot)com for full details and on how they work.

  19. I happen to have ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, PTSD, and Borderline Personality Disorder! Right now I’m struggling with bipolar depression! The depression is terrible.

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  21. “The depress phase”. Can we just talk about that saying right there. Depression isn’t a phase. It’s not an illness either. You make it seem like ppl like me who suffer, Key word suffer, with it make it seem like we’re crazy, or that we’re just really sad and we need attention. No, that not.

  22. I am suffering from bipolar disorder …now IAM very tense about my treatment as I have made too much distraction for my family members …now plzzzz someone suggest me what I can do????

  23. what does it mean if these things all happen within a day?. i feel like i’m not myself and don’t even remember what my old self was like. i also randomly became socially awkward and the way i talk changes all the time. idk.

  24. Thankyou so much for this Video. It is so hard to deal with bi polar people. Now I can understand those who are Bi polar.

  25. Yes you have Answered my Question about my friend. I knew it! The other Doc with the PHD said I was wrong. Thankyou Thankyou very much.

  26. My significant other has BP and right now he going through his depression.. Hardest part is feeling pushed away sometimes but I give him his space. I just want to hold his hand through this and be there for him. For all of you who are suffering from this illness you have my support. Just take one day at a time. If you have any advice or pet peeves that can help us I'd like to hear about it.

  27. This meditation lower BP and tension. Meditate till end of the video, no matter whether the music end https://youtu.be/l1Mg_zHxS6g

  28. Depression can be really hard to recognise. Thank you for posting such an informative video that will guide many struggling with depression. For those who are suffering from depression, if you want to talk to someone and share your inner struggle, you can follow eLifeGuru's channel and can visit our website.

  29. All good info but i assume a lot of ppl are like me, the side effects of all the meds outweigh the benefits when your're " feeling good" so that makes you want to stop using them, then youre down again. Bi polar is a very fucked up life, with or without meds, plain and simple. Apologies for being negative but real.

  30. Many thanks, I've been looking for "depression anxiety herbal remedy" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried – Hanincoln Nanlivia Framework – (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my m8 got amazing results with it.

  31. Thank you. I would suggest that we take environmental qualifiers into account as well. Anxiety and human emotions have functionality, in a healthy social system.

  32. Also. I was put on Zoloft at 13 yo….took myself off secretly soon after….later they made the drug only for 18+. Thanks. It's like they knew what they were doing. 😑. But thank God for critical thinking.

    I would prioritize environmental effect before giving "crazy" people pills…thanks for you efforts folks, really.

  33. Changing your diet will have an impact. Stanford should be studying this now in 2019, unless you're in the pockets of big pharma. Try telling your patients to avoid gluten, dairy and take supplements like fish oils, Vitamin D, probiotics. Gut health and brain health is a real thing. And for insomnia, how about helping to treat with light therapy techniques, instead of all the drugs? None of us needs a "boatload" of medication by the way. Stop drugging us to death. Signed, BP1

  34. I think that SOME middle schoolers think that depression is just a sad feeling, like when your boyfriend/girlfriend breaks up with you, or when drama gets you sad. But depression is like a long term sadness that won’t go away no matter how hard you try. Your mind fills up with suicide thoughts and other horrible thoughts. Some people are acting like depression is the new “trend” or something. Even I don’t think I have depression, even though people bully me and my “friends” ignore me everyday. Everyday I only talk to like, 2 or 3 people at school, and I don’t consider myself to have depression, I just kind of get sad about it sometimes, but I usually just ignore it, because I know there is more to life than just being sad about someone calling me “fat” or “ugly”. Just know that these words are just words, and you don’t have to listen to these words. You’re beautiful, even if you don’t think so. Heck, even I think that I am beautiful, even though other people say otherwise. Self confidence is very important. Just look at yourself in the mirror and say, “I am beautiful” or “I am pretty.” Don’t listen to those haters, do you because you are beautiful. Thanks for reading, I hope you have a great day 😊💕

  35. In short: The profession does not have a clue how to cure or treat this. None of the medicene have unclear effects exept unwanted side effects. Ketamin maybe. Nobody knows why it has effects on depression. Untreated patients medicate themselfs with alcohol and even amphetamines. Maybe they are on to something less haphazrd and useless. Note to all: psycology has never cured a single mental patient. Fact.

  36. does bipolar have anything to do with not been able to let go? someone who i know robbed me about 2 months ago im still very angry about it and have been all these 8 weeks its like it happened yesterday its still very raw in mind, that person needs to stay out of my way.

  37. Everbody get's sad that's just a damn emotion.
    Plus everyone has mood elevations.

    All these said symptoms can be applied to anyone at least In some point in their life.

    What i want psychiatrist to do is come up with a gene test that they use are stop calling their diagnosis a disorder.

    Because a disease has to have a genectic component proven.

    Without that all you have is symtoms and a label.
    Plus a misdiagnosis is just an opionion.

    Just like diagnosis in general in psychiatry.
    If you people had a valid test you could not misdiagnos a person.

    This shows all you people have is symtoms and a label.
    Plus psychiatrist have no problem with calling an emotion a disorder.

    Plus the very people that wrote the dsm 5 has came out and said that the disorder's in the DSM 5 was just voted up on.

  38. Going through depression phase of bipolar. Feeling real low. I’m half way through Electroconvulsive therapy.

  39. I have bipoler depression and social anxiety. Im just starting high school and its effecting my life. I have suicidal thoughts and can never find out why i am sad and fatigued one day i just wanna lay in bed all day one day then the next im fine. ive had mental breakdowns a lot and i cant focus in school. I just want it to stop. I want to just be happy like kid should be i want to enjoy life not want to end it. I had to see a therapist when i was 7 and it never really helped. I just i feel so alone all the time. I want to be normal but i cant… People say its better to talk it out but it hurts more when i talk about it. So i keep my feelings inside. People say you cant help someone who doesnt want to be helped. Its not that i dont want help im just scared, scared to be judged, scared i would be sent away. I want help but im scared.

  40. Who else in here finds weed to be very soothing?
    I hate people that say weed is some kind of magical panacea because they actually fuck up the narrative for the rest of us.
    But to me it actually has some really nice mood-stabilizing properties, it doesn't always work but when it does it's almost instantaneous and the only side effect is being hungry.
    I know some folks cannot even stand the thought of consuming THC because it catapults them into an anxiety attack, and to you I say, please don't demonize it because it can be life changing for some other people.

  41. depression can create very serious problem in ones life, its a route cause for high destruction from your routine, here is a article which can help you or your loved one to over come with it, https://tulikastalk.blogspot.com/2019/06/depression-reasons-symptoms-steps-to.html

    have a happy life….

  42. Coming from a person diagnosed with bipolar II, this video really lacked true insight of the condition. Food, healthy life style, calculated sleep schedule, etc are all VERY beneficial. Also, this video sounds as though bipolar disorder is the end of the world, totally false. Patients are fed all of these negatives and not enough focus on the positives nor the beneficial habits such as thought stopping practices, writing, setting healthy/positive reminders.

  43. It really sucks when someone knows your situation far as being bi polar or just down right feeling horrible they'll just ignore you even when you try to talk to them living with a person like that can really mess with your mental😔

  44. i dont want to self diagnose and dont have money to see a doctor but bipolar 2 sounds a bit like what i may have

  45. i have been dealing with this for years …. i am a teddy bear anyways… allways did my job…well i was laughed at out the work force… i dont think its funny like others have had made fun of me… i cant find nothing that works….

  46. Weight gain is a big issue for many. Many patients stop medication because they can't deal with gaining weight.

  47. Why are so many bible believers diagnosis with this decease? Many people who have repeated the teachings of scripture are committed and given these drugs why? I guess Jesus would have been given these drugs too.

  48. This is not good information. I would read Kay Redfield Jameson. Also, information and research put out by NAMI shows research that it is not likely family members of someone with Bi-polar would have the same illness. I read something like .01% from one study. I do not know how much that even matters though. I would consider the statistician who died in a river that averaged 1 inch of water? It could be slanderous to say that 80% of relatives of someone with bi-polar have the illness. Insurance companies are doing damages with that also. And people who have this illness vary greatly in their levels of functioning and how the illness presents itself. Some are successful attorneys and psychologists. They can be very successful and famous people such as Winston Churchill had the illness.

  49. I don’t understand this, everyone has highs and lows. The ups and downs of life. I feel like I have extreme ups and downs but this seems very normal. Why would we want to be zombies and always the same..? Not criticizing just very curious about this. It’s like their making a big deal about nothing. Life is very crazy!!

  50. I am curious, how are SSRIs at the bottom of the pyramid (21:30) when they commonly push Bipolar patients into Mania/Hypomania?

  51. I think I may have bipolar depression but a much milder form. I can go from crying and having suicidal thoughts to calm and happy the next

  52. I had this diagnosed last year, and I had maybe 20 years, committed suicide once,
    God completely healed me and I am now free of medication

  53. I had depression for about 7 years on and off now and thought that everyone was like me, that other people could just handle it better or something. Well today I finally decided to go to a psychiatrist and I was diagnosed with bipolar depression, I can't say that I didn't know that there was something wrong with me but I never imagined that it could've been bipolar disorder.I mean I knew about bipolar but never thought I could have it I guess. Anyways for the people who might have it and don't know yet, I know how it feels to have no ambition for anything to feel like there is no hope or point in doing anything, that u can feel like the you are the odd one out but after I tried hurting myself and saw how much pain i cause to my close ones I realized that I just had to get better or at least try to. I am starting my medication today and I hope I get better soon. To anyone that feels the same way or similar in some ways go to a psychiatrist even if its nothing serious just to make sure. To anyone that read this, Thank you and have a nice day!

  54. My whole face is so very much fast in twitching and I felt nervous and begin to tremble my voice when I'm talking in front of many people and also by one on one conversation personally. is that basically a bipolar depression or disorder?

  55. Iamawalkingtestimony.com Jesus Christ died for your sins. He alone saves, heals and delivers. He loves you and will give you peace.

  56. IDK What to do!!
    :0 !!!

    I am currently figuring out with my new therapist if I am bipolar II.
    It’s kind of awful. I have uncles on my moms side with bp. Grandparents are holocaust survivors anxiety runs in my family esp. for uncles and father. At family gatherings the level of neurosis is TERRIBLE. have aspbergers
    Syndrome (psychosis? ?
    (I’m taking abilify now and just feel dead. SOO depressed. )
    Irritability? Energy when upset? Messed up relationships with others? Distrust of authority or social convention?) I’m a 20 year old girl. I can’t read social cues well b/c of aspbergers and sometimes go through energy infused depressions where if some pathetic boy tells me his life I think he loves me and I believe him and I let him have sex with me despite dissociating for most of the interaction. (Happened three times.) Afterwards I am more depressed than anything in the world. I feel like my stomach is a wet rag Of agistated depression juice. One time, lying in a grey staring at the foamy white wall at a blank starewell with pencil holes in the wall in an upscale part of Maryland. I was convinced to follow him into a movie theatre and we saw joker. The boy had left his black rain jacket on me.. I had been entirely bodiless. I want to die. I get sick of the way weird guys fetshise mentally ill Jewish girls and get all high over my blue eyes and boobs and with one guy since I’m smart was glad to see i was ‘still a woman’. Wanted to know if my family was rich. (Related to ignorance over Jews) Wanted to kill me out of jealousy for it. Wanted to destroy me maybe. Talked about their ex girlfriend named Sarah or Emily. This has happened to me 3 times.

    Wandered through md to heavily Jewish area. This is fine as a Jew as social convention is for one Jew to welcome any Jew anywhere do to a tribal connection. Went to a shul to hang out with jews. Was seen to be smart after being poked around but was discounted for left wing views. Whatever. I was judged for being as knowledgeable as some of the men. Women outside, unless proven to be right wing are looked down upon for knowing religous texts. A women watched me leave into a ride sharing car watching my body like I may be slutty or simmering and like (dating the driver of whatever??) I felt inside like I wanted to die. What am I a Jew for? How can I be helped? Why are people like this? Why is society like this? Why can’t I just fit in?
    I feel as if I can never get a life where I’m not just constantly like a toy. Where my incidentalness and disability are invitation to sex and consequences are for non fucked up women. My male therapist once laughed and said. Oh it was just bad communication. Sure.
    I feel scared. I mean it was. So like maybe haha don’t try to fuck me then. Do other women go through this? This happens to me like every other week.
    The only autism resources I see are for men. I’m learning the bad way the social script fir ‘I am in trouble.’ This is not consent.Oh no. There are no autism and bp studies on women. Or for women with adhd in addition to both of these. I impress my teachers with how much I’ve read but unnerve them when I’ve outread them. I get self esteem issues and then can’t compete the work and fail school. I am so distracted all I do is feel like crap.
    What is the point of phycology? How much if me and how much of everybody else is really crazy? In another way.

    I just want help. Honest help. I don’t want to end up in someone’s closet. It’s kind of scary. I feel like I am a victim and happily lying. Like you go on making me lie that I’m into this. I dint know what I want. Does it matter? The new meds make my hands jitter and I
    Feel like I’m agitated but still depressed enough to want to curl up and vanish and spend a whole bunch of hours doing nothing but hate myself and stare at the curling of my house feeling like crap.

    The boy said kissing me as I melted into the dark. “The joker was right.”
    Nothing mattered according to the joker.
    The joker in screen laughed and laughed because no one understood him.
    I don’t know why people think it’s good to do all that laughing.
    I don’t think nothing matters means you get to destroy. It was never an entitlement I enjoyed in other people.
    He was going to join the marines. He told me.
    So there were other women for him to have.
    At 19 what else??
    It was according to a friend of mine normal.
    I need to be careful I am told.
    I don’t think it’s all that good that we laugh at the Jewish and the crazy. I don’t think it’s all that good to leave autistic women in the dark.

  57. Many patients in the comments seem to fully acknowledge that they have the illness. But those patients I am close to refuse to acknowledge that there is something wrong with them rather are extremely suspicious of certain people in their lives. Is this situation possible for people with bipolar?

  58. Idk if I have biopolar depression. But like I would wake up so depressed and can’t even more. Then I would be so hyper and crazy then I would go back to being depressed. I’ve lost interest in all of my activities, I have social anxiety, and I’ve been having sucidal thought latley. I can’t sleep anymore I have about 3-6 hours sleep every night some tiems less than that. I rlly don’t know what’s wrong with me. I want to get help but I’m scared. I cant talk to anyone bc when I talk to people I feel worse like there gonna judge me.

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